What cuntard is responsible for this fucking travesty?
Seriously? How fucking cuntishly thick and demented do you have to be even consider promoting lunacy like that to the front page of your website.
Oviously, I left a comment in response:
"the sooner we`ll stop strapping them to boards and dissecting them alive for no good reason"
Why has this comment been selected for promotion to the front page of the website? It is moronic. No one except psychopaths strap animals to boards and dissect them alive for no good reason. Personally, whenever I dissect a living organism I have very, very good reasons for doing so because I am a scientist and the research I conduct provides vital information to help us manage our environment sustainably and effectively. Furthermore, I work exclusively with lower animals such as worms and molluscs, which lack the sophisticated neural system to even experience pain and suffering. This is why experiments conducted upon such organisms are not covered by Home Office regulations. If I were to work on higher animals such as fish, rodents or even primates then I still would never find myself strapping them to boards and dissecting them alive because this is illegal and unethical and no one does this any more!
Shame on the Guardian for drawing attention to this stupid comment. What are you going to do for an encore- highlight the words of some lunatic calling for ginger people to be burnt as witches?
Let's see if it gets deleted.
Addition some 3 hours later:
Excellent! Some pig-ignorant fucktard has already posted an inflamatory response. I returned fire:
@Britcominghome
Allow me to paraphrase your response:
"Yeah, science is dumb cos I dunt unnerstand it."Still happy enough for it to provide you with the computer or phone you've posted this from, hey. And the food production system that keeps you alive, the medicines that cure your many diseases, the engineering allowing you to stay dry, warm and secure.
In response, I believe worms don't experience pain and suffering because I stand on the shoulders of scientific giants who have accumulated evidence to suggest that they can't. The idea that an animal as simple as a worm or lower molluscs (I specifically exclude cephalopods because of their sophistication) can experience any mental stimuli in a manner similar to mammals is laughable to anyone with even the most basic appreciation of comparative anatomy. I suggest you read this Wikipedia article. There are ample referenes at the end to peer-reviewed papers. Pay particular attention to the Comparative anatomy and evolution section.
I hope your arrogance in insulting and contradicting me is underlain by an advanced understanding of the subject that you will be willing to share with me here. I would be most grateful if you could provide a single piece of evidence which suggests that lower animals can feel pain because, as a scientist, I am anxious to learn and keen to establish the truth in an objective and well-evidenced fashion.
If I sound uptight and condescending, its because I am.
Addition another 10 minutes later:
Okay, after re-reading his comment I realised I hadn't been nearly harsh enough with this guy. So here's the follow-up:
Sorry, I tried to refrain from challenging this idiocy but I'm so profoundly irritated by @Britcominghome's comment that I'm just going to go nuts.
You wrote:
"That a living entity doesn't 'experience pain and suffering' is simply a moronic thing to say."
So, according to you, an amoeba can experience pain and suffering, yes?
How about a cyanobacterium?
How about the moss growing out on the deck?
The tapeworm burrowing its way through you intestines and the bacteria they contain?
You're an idiot. Mainly for that comment, but also for the "blacks" one too.
"ginger people to be burnt as witches"
ReplyDeleteAn interesting proposition to which, as yet, I have no definite leanings one way or t'other. However, to assist me as I wrestle with the pros and cons, er, are you ginger by any chance?
I see that the time difference between SW England and New Zealand means that your "contributions" remain on view for much longer than previously!
ReplyDeleteYou can never have too much of me, Weggis, that's what I always say! Er, you're not really ginger at the roots of all that brown hair, are you?
ReplyDeleteJosef Mengele was a scientist with good reasons (please note: i'm Jewish, and do not lightly invoke his name and crimes)
ReplyDeleteand all the scientists devising evermore evil, ruthless, psychopathic, unconscionable and unforgivable ways of torturing human beings in the names of democracy, justice and freedom, have good reasons
i'm with Derrick Jensen on this one:
Vivisection: A Moderate Proposal
http://www.derrickjensen.org/vivis.html
since you are, apparently, obsessed with your penis, i'm sure you'd enthusiastically step to the head of the line (no pun intended)
go nuts! (intended)
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postscript: i'd add another group to the list: all pet "owners" should volunteer their pets to the cause
surely it's that important
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"In relation to [animals], all people are Nazis; for the animals, it is an eternal Treblinka."
- Isaac Bashevis Singer
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http://www.earthlings.com/
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"The contemporary atheists, while many are noted scientists, are deluded products of this image-based and culturally illiterate world. They speak about religion, human progress and meaning in the impoverished language of television slogans. They play to our fears, especially of what we do not understand. Their words are sensational, fragmented and devoid of content. They appeal to our subliminal and irrational desires. They select a few facts and use them to dismiss historical, political and cultural realities. They tell us what we want to believe about ourselves. They assure us that we are good. They proclaim the violence employed in our name a virtue. They champion our ignorance as knowledge. They assure us that there is no reason to investigate other ways of being. Our way of life is the best. They indulge us in our delusional dream of human perfectibility. They tell us we will be saved by science and rationality. They tell us that humanity is moving inexorably forward. None of this is true. It defies human nature and human history. But it is what we want to believe."
- Chris Hedges
To which this devout atheist responds:
AMEN!